LEATHERHEAD WAR MEMORIALS - WWI
Private Herbert Tribe
10th (Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry) Bn.
King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Town Memorial P8.R3.C2
the memorial is incorrect *
7th Kings Shropshire Regt., [*10th (Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry) Bn.
King's Shropshire Light Infantry ]
Oct 7 1918 [*7 Sep 1918]
Taken, Not Given, Liam Sumption, L&DLHS
The regimental records of the Shropshires indicate that Herbert Tribe was born in Leatherhead and that he enlisted at Leominster, (Bredenbury Court Gardens, near Bromyard). His regimental number was 25287 and he was serving as a private in the 10th Bn., Shropshire Light Infantry. ¹
[Liam Sumption comments that Herbert Tribe was living a long way from Leatherhead - what he did not know was that Herbert Tribe's wife Maria Tribe lived at Overdine, Bredenbury, Bromyard, Worcs.]
The Leatherhead War Memorial Sub Committee minutes of 20 August 1920 recommended that a number of men "should be included owing to their prior connection with Leatherhead and the present residence of their near relatives in the place, if space allows.". The Tribes were a well known local family and one of them served on the Committee.
The Parish magazine of November 1918 ² reported that Herbert Tribe was 'killed in action' on 7th September (as do the Regimental records).
The War Diary ³ of the 10th Bn. KSLI sets out what occurred:
On 7th September the Shropshires concentrated in Coutures Copse, and passed through the Australian outpost line at 6.30am. They met considerable machine-gun fire. The village of Yullens-Fourcon [Villers-Faucon] was cleared but considerable difficulty was experienced by one company which advanced from the village. The Bn.'s Lewis guns took out several of the enemy machine guns and they then consolidated.
No details are given of the casualties sustained.
1. Soldiers who died in the Great War (KOSLI): IWM Lambeth
2. Parish Magazine of St Mary & St Nicholas , Leatherhead: November 1918 issue
3. WO95/3154 War Diary of 10th Bn., Shropshire LI: PRO
Name: TRIBE, H(erbert): Age 41
Regiment: King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Unit: 10th (Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry) Bn.
Date of Death: 07/09/1918
Service No: 25287
Son of Alfred and Maria Tribe, of Leatherhead, Surrey; husband of Maria Tribe, of Overdine, Bredenbury, Bromyard, Worcs.
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 8.
Cemetery: VILLERS-FAUCON COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
Thursday 26 September 1918
News is to hand of the death of Private Herbert Tribe of Bredenbury, who was killed in action in France on Sept. the 7th. Deceased previously to the war was head gardener at Bredenbury Court, and had been in France two years where he had seen a good deal of fighting.
Thursday 26 September 1918
KILLED IN ACTION.
TRIBE: On September 7th in France killed in action, Private Herbert Tribe, of the K.S.L.I.'s, aged 41, late of Bredenbury Court lodge. Deeply mourned by his wife and children.
Dorking and Leatherhead Advertiser
Saturday 5 October 1918
KILLED IN ACTION.
Mrs. Tribe, of St. John's-terrace, Leatherhead, has beard that her son, Pte. Herbert Tribe, of the Shropshire Light Infantry, was killed in action in France on September 7th.
Pte. Tribe, who will be well remembered in Leatherhead, had been for several years head gardener at Bredenbury Court, Bromyard, and had been a very successful exhibitor at the Royal Horticultural Exhibition in London, specialising in chrysanthemums and carnations. He was held in high esteem at Bredenbury, where a memorial service was held on Sunday.
Deceased leaves a widow and young family. Mrs. Tribe has five other sons serving at the present time, viz.: W. Tribe (Royal Defence Corps), Pte. E. Tribe (Marseilles), Pte. A. Tribe (Royal Marines), Pte. G. Tribe (Salonika), and Corporal S. Tribe (France).
West Sussex Gazette
Thursday 31 October 1918
Pte. H. Tribe, 10th Yeomanry, who some years ago was employed at Downside, has been killed in action. He has six brothers serving, and leaves a widow and four children.
Leatherhead Parish Magazine
FOR KING AND COUNTRY.
The following have given their lives for the Cause :—
Pte. Herbert Tribe, Shropshire Light Infantry, killed in action Sept. 7, 1918.
Dorking and Leatherhead Advertiser
Saturday 28 December
1918 ROLL OF HONOUR.
THE YEAR’S RECORD OF THE BRAVE FALLEN.
TRIBE, PTE HERBERT, Shropshire Light Infantry, son of Mrs. Tribe, St. John's Terrace, Leatherhead.
Herbert Tribe was born on 9 September 1877 and baptised on 28 October 1877 at Leatherhead Parish Church, Surrey
His father was Alfred Tribe b 1 April 1845, Frensham Hampshire, England, a son of John Tribe, a Journeyman Smith and Martha Tribe then of Epsom Common, Surrey. Alfred died on 17 January 1913 at Leatherhead, Surrey.
His mother was Maria Ann Otway b 26 March 1847, Tangmere, Sussex, England of Leatherhead, Surrey
They were married on 27 November 1865 at Leatherhead Parish Church, Surrey:Alfred Tribe - 20 - Bachelor - Bricklayer - Leatherhead: Father - John Tribe, BlacksmithMaria Ann Otway - 18 - Spinster - Dress?maker - Leatherhead: Father - William Henry Otway, Wheelwright
They lived in the Fairfield part of Leatherhead but by the 1911 Census Herbert's parents had moved to 7 St John's Terrrace, Leatherhead, the address cited in the 28 December 1918 press report above. Herbert had left Leatherhead by 1901 (see below).
Herbert's cousin Ronald Percival Tribe is among the WW1 names on Leatherhead War Memorial, their fathers were brothers.
Herbert's siblings were Alfred W, Albert, William, Edward J, Annie E M, Arthur, Ernest, Alberta E, Stanley.
In 1903 Herbert and Maria Hodgson [sic] were married at Upton upon Severn, Worcestershire. Maria was born on 10 December 1879 and baptised at St Giles, Ashtead, Surrey on 4 April 1880.
She grew up living in Headley Road, Ashtead. She was a daughter of Frederick Hogsden, a Bricklayer and later a Chimney Sweep, born in Ashtead and his wife Mary A Hogsden. [Hogsden is the spelling in the 1881 and 1891 Censuses and in the St Giles, Ashtead Register of Baptisms].
Their children were John Alfred, Herbert William, Arthur Robert and Evelyn Mary.
Herbert had been employed at Downside House in Downs Lane, the home of the Tate family, before becoming Head Gardener at Bredenbury Court, near Bromyard, Herefordshire.
This was the home of the Barneby family. In 1870, William Henry Barneby commissioned the architect, Thomas Wyatt, to add the south façade.
At the turn of the century, a new owner, Francis Greswold-Williams, with the help of his architect Guy Dawber, added the west wing and Dining Room, whilst the Hall was ornately panelled and the staircase installed.
Sometime shortly after 1918, Bredenbury Court became a school and for the next 40 years, Cheltenham Ladies College flourished here, until a sequence of headmasters owned and ran the school independently. It became known as St Richards School around 1968.
The school closed in the summer of 2016.
As already noted Herbert had been for several years at Bredenbury Court where he was held in high esteem. He had been a very successful exhibitor at the Royal Horticultural Exhibition in London, specialising in chrysanthemums and carnations.He lived at:
1881 Census: Fairfield, Leatherhead, Surrey
1891 Census: 2 Albert Cottages, Fairfield, Leatherhead
1901 Census: Davenham Gardens, Great Malvern, Worcestershire
1911 Census: The Gardens, Bredenbury Court Lodge, Bromyard, Herefordshire
After the war
Herbert's mother died on 14 April 1928 at Leatherhead
His widow Maria continued living at Overdine, Bredenbury, Bromyard, Worcestershire for the rest of her life. She died on 5 March 1964.
Herbert is not named on the WW1 Memorial in St Peter's, Bromyard.
Herbert Tribe is remembered on these memorials
Leatherhead Town Memorial
Leatherhead RBL Roll of Honour, Leatherhead Parish Church
Ladies War Shrine, Leatherhead Parish Church
Church Lads Brigade Memorial Tryptich, All Saints Leatherhead
Surrey in the Great War
Map showing Villers-Faucon
The King's Shropshire Light Infantry - 1914-18
the website editor would like to add further information on this casualty
e.g. a photo of him, of his grave and of any recollections within his family
page last updated 2 Aug 2004: 14 Feb 14: 24 Dec 20